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Help! White Oak Cabinet Stain?

6 år sedan
senast redigerad:förra året

Hi all-

Working on a kitchen with rift sawn white oak (I attached a photo below of current progress). been trying several different stain products that have all either gone really yellow, or amber (when using lacquer). We found a product by ILVA that seals the wood without changing the color at all which is great, and then we've tried using JEL'D stains on top to control the color a bit. None of the stains are quite right... anyone have experience staining rift white oak? Trying to achieve the look below- a darker version of the natural finish that goes more desaturated brown..not yellow/orange. Would appreciate any photos/products/processes you've used. thank you!

my kitchen:


Sample photo:



Kommentarer (211)

  • 3 år sedan

    Following

  • 3 år sedan

    I messaged Renner, this was their reply.


    Good evening,

    The replacement product for the 1092 is the following link https://tlfinish.com/product/yo-xxm718-natural-look-water-based-self-sealer/
    This is a much more durable product and performs better.
    Let us know if you have any questions !
    Best regards,
    Harvey Zook

  • 3 år sedan

    I bought this based on your recommenation and am not disappointed. Except the place I bought it at said catilyze at 10% lol hope that percentage worked too.

  • 3 år sedan

    Following - planning a new kitchen in the next few months and want rift/quarter-sawn white oak.

  • 2 år sedan
    Ändrades senast: 2 år sedan

    We literally just finished installing our white oak plain sawn cabinets and i tried alot of stains. i found rubio monocoat was amazing and kept the beautiful color of the white oak without turning it yellow at all. My cabinet people had never heard of rubio monocoat and said it was a great product to use. i love the color!





  • 2 år sedan

    Can you please share the exact product that you used? Thanks

  • 2 år sedan

    Yes it’s called Rubio Monocoat

  • 2 år sedan

    In natural

  • 2 år sedan
    Ändrades senast: 2 år sedan

    You have to put some sort of a slight white wash on the oak first and then clear coat it. That is the trick, to camoflauge the orange/yellow tone and also stops it from darking so much.


  • 2 år sedan

    @sillysquares - in your comment above you said you used a whitewash stain from Rove and Dwell. When I look at your IG, you said you used Old Barn’s Living whitewash stain. Just curious, did you use two different white wash stains?

  • 2 år sedan
    Ändrades senast: 2 år sedan

    @tavi9876

    https://roveanddwell.com/products/copy-of-farmhouse-exterior-stain?variant=31876928667709


    I think Rove and Dwell sell the Old Barn's Living whitewash (see link above)

  • 2 år sedan

    Hi. i love your cabinet color choice. i have maple cabinets with a hiney finish but want to refinish them to this color. do you thinknits do able with maple to attain that white oak look?

  • 2 år sedan

    @Sillysquares Such a perfect finish you did! Can you please share the White wash dilution ratio or did you use it full strength and just wipe off after 5 minutes. This is the detail that is the key.Thank you

  • 2 år sedan


    tavi9876 Old Barn and Rove and Dwell are the same company, they changed names.

  • 2 år sedan

    I am doing built-ins and have been following this question as well. This is where we landed with a stain from Hirshfields.

  • 2 år sedan

    @sillysquares I've lost the thread were I was discussing with you. Can you please tell me your pinterest name thank you

  • 2 år sedan

    @lgio71 where did you find the kitchen cabinet sample that you shared with your cabinet maker? I'm trying to do the same thing and having a hard time finding stain samples. Thanks.

  • 2 år sedan

    @thomaspartyof6 I know you posted forever ago, but love the cabinet pictures you did! How are they holding up? Can you confirm what kind of wood you used for the cabinets?

  • 2 år sedan

    To this day - I still love my cabinets too. The painted uppers are paint-grade maple & the lowers are select rift-sawn white oak (I get lots of rave reviews from those that see them first hand). We had a quality craftsmen, and that was key…but the wood & paint & stain has held up really well. With white uppers & wood lowers - I find I rarely have to clean them. Just spot clean when messes happen...dust on occasion but they’ve held up very well. So has my faucet




    in case any skeptics have wondered. Powder-coat mgfr black paint finish & not an ounce of hard water stains (makes all the difference).

    Any way ..here are some pics. Good luck on your project!

  • 2 år sedan

    Thank you so much! So happy you are still enjoying them! I just got through reading this huge long thread, appreciate all the time you took to answer everyone's questions! Mine included!

  • 2 år sedan

    thomaspartyof6 thank you for the beautiful pictures. Did you stain your lowers or just use a water-based top coat. If you stained, would you share the color or mix?

  • 2 år sedan

    @tavi9876 - If you scroll through all of the older comments (need to hit link to load them) - you’ll find what thomasoartyof6 used exactly on the cabinets (actually posted the sherwin williams formula from the can). The stain has some white paint added to it. All the details have been provided in the comments.

  • 2 år sedan

    As I was reading through all these suggestions on white oak cabinets and keeping the true color, without turning golden, I am posting what I used and how they turned out. Hopefully this will help someone.

    I used Minwax Professional in this formula below and then a coat of Masters Armor in flat.

  • 2 år sedan

    Super appreciative of this thread. I used the Renner brand after coming across the suggestion in this group. I also tried Rubiocoat, but was not crazy about the whitewashed finished.



  • 2 år sedan

    Love the kitchen! you did a great job! do you mind sharing what floors you used?

  • 2 år sedan

    Thank you! It’s genova oak by coretec

  • 2 år sedan
    Ändrades senast: 2 år sedan

    Scared to stain my beautiful new kitchen. I love the color it is now! Stain professional tried some of his combinations on on the back of a drawer. Not sure.




  • 2 år sedan
    Ändrades senast: 2 år sedan

    Find a cabinet finisher, not a painter - they are not the same thing.

  • 2 år sedan

    Jessica Lorraine Would love to see pictures1


  • 2 år sedan

    Brad Cerf, Would love a finished picture. PLEASE!

  • 2 år sedan
    Ändrades senast: 2 år sedan

    Tis picture is taken early morning no sun. My original Raw wood is on the hood.


    Back of drawer. Right is clear coat. Middle is 50% clear and 50% White wash BM. left end picture is 75% Clear and 25% white wash. Im having one more sample made with 75% White wash and 25% Clear.

  • 2 år sedan

    @lculpepper68 - ypur kitchen looks beautiful! Would you mind adding some more photos + photos of your table area? What colors paint did you use on feature wall + rest of walls + white cabinets?

  • 2 år sedan

    dani_m08 - thank you! Here is the hood and pantry door of the kitchen that I just finished building. There is no glass in the pantry door yet but it will be reeded glass. The feature wall that is in my dining area is painted SW Iron Ore. The remaining white cabinets were already painted when I purchased the house.

  • 2 år sedan

    What I have noticed in this delightful topic of staining your Oak cabinets is number 1. Pictures cannot really show the true color of your Oak stained Cabinets and 2. Everyone has a different idea of their perfect Oak color!

  • 2 år sedan

    What’s wood name and paint name? So gorgeous!

  • 2 år sedan

    @lculpepper68 - (can’t tag you for some reason) - your kitchen looks beautiful! I really like your hood and your pantry door - I think reeded glass is a good choice! I was actually going to ask if the accent walls was SW Iron Ore! It’s a great paint color.



    @Mia Smyth - (I can’t tag you either - so annoying) - would you mind sharing exactly what you did to achieve your results? I remember that you had a few different samples - and maybe was going to try one more mix? Your result does look a lot like the cabinets in the inspiration kitchen that was posted originally by the OP - looks REALLY good! I also do not want yellow or orange tones - I am getting rid of 90s honey red oak!


    What are you using for your countertops/backsplash? I really like the marble in the OP’s inspiration photo - although it may be porcelain. I’ve seen some really beautiful porcelain countertops (including one that looks a lot like the countertops/backsplash in the OP’s photo) - but so many people have had issues with fabrication + chipping (not sure if that has changed - it’s been awhile since I’ve researched them).


    It’s funny - this post has been going on for a long time - I’m not sure that the OP ever came back to discuss any of the options - or to share a photo of his finished cabinets.


    I would be extremely upset if a contractor tried to “trick” me by substituting red oak for white oak (”trick” is being nice - it’s actually fraud). White oak is more expensive than red oak - especially these days since it’s become SO POPULAR!


    Red oak can be pretty - I’ve seen some red oak cabinets offered by Dura Supreme that looked really nice - just not the stain color that I’ve been imagining for the past FOUR YEARS (my kitchen renovation was supposed to be finished three years ago - but was delayed due to contractor issues + health stuff).


    Surprisingly, I still want the same exact look - unfortunately, it seems like 80% of people now want it also. Instead of having a more unique looking kitchen - it’s going to look like I jumped on the two toned white paint + white oak cabinet bandwagon 😞

  • 2 år sedan
    Ändrades senast: 2 år sedan

    So far not done! 8' Ceiling


  • 2 år sedan

    Your cabinets look amazing so far!
    You are correct…my dining wall is SW Iron Ore. Here is a pic of the pantry door with the reeded glass. I like how it came out. On to the next project!

  • 2 år sedan

    All of your kitchens are beautiful.


    My daughter and son-in-law are moving to Charleston, SC and are going to be gutting the kitchen to remodel.


    I know this is a long shot, but are any of you in that area or know of a cabinet maker in the Charleston, SC area? They currently live in FL and the long distance planning has been difficult. Finding a designer and cabinet maker would be beneficial.

  • 2 år sedan

    Sorry no..,.I am in Texas and made my own cabinets, hood and pantry door. I do know that there are many talented carpenter/cabinet guys out there. It just may take some research and recommendations.

  • 2 år sedan

    Thank you.

  • 2 år sedan

    lculpepper68, can you tel me what color and finish you used on your hood and door?

  • 2 år sedan
    Ändrades senast: 2 år sedan



    I am happy with this natural color! This is the result we wanted. We did not want Rift Saw Oak because we wanted to see the White Oak grain! Now on to the next challenge of picking the hardware. Blk or Brass 4" or 6' All this is not easy.

  • 2 år sedan

    Beautiful!!

  • 2 år sedan

    @steeleja I used Minwax Professional in this formula and then Armor flat topcoat.

  • 2 år sedan
    Ändrades senast: 2 år sedan

    @thomaspartyof6 Can you share the Sherwin Williams color code for your cabinet stain?

  • förra året
    Ändrades senast: förra året

    @thomasoartyof6 can you share what brand cabinet’s you used please?

  • förra året

    @Mia Smyth did you end up going with just the clear coat, if I'm understanding correctly? If so, do you know what the brand of clear coat was?....Sorry if I missed it in the comments. Thank you

  • förra året

    @lculpepper68 Could you possibly repost your stain formula? I can't read the formula in the picture in your post & when I try to zoom in it gets blurry. Thank you

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